[w00t!] Clan wanting to resolve issue with TTP server

**...bigdog...** · 12-22-05, 11:26 AM

Stiffler, going as Otis and Cowboy, as Eddie Lee , were disrespectful to the admins that were online. They didn't know that they were admins(..BigDog..) at the time.

And this is also irrelevant. IT doesn't matter whether they know admins are on or not. What.....you can be a dick to my regulars and new connections, but oh, when the admins around....that's when you actually act like a real team gamer, instead of a pile of punk internet tough guys?

So when the admin's NOT on......this is all fine?

**amsterdam** · 12-22-05, 12:40 PM

This has nothing to do with tags or cal. I said I would stand with what ever you and your higher level admins deemed fair. Now he did say that he UNDERSTOOD why it happened, and he did write a letter of apologie to the TTP community. This would be the first steps in understanding, forgiving or not forgiving. I am not trying to say that i belive him, but its in your logs that he understands the reason behind you and your other admins getting pissed. that says alot for a person to come out and say he is wrong, which he did. I just want to make this fair for my clan mate to be givin a fair shake at this matter.
[[Stiffler, going as Otis and Cowboy, as Eddie Lee , were disrespectful to the admins that were online. They didn't know that they were admins(..BigDog..) at the time.]]

I do think its relevant that he didnt know you were and admin. if your a admin you get more respect than the day to day pubber. if your a regular player then trash talking is accepted in most servers. i am not saying that your server is any regular server, hell i gave you a comp about the server last night. Bottom line is everyone talks shit and they talk shit back. if you base the vote on him talking shit to admin, or a pub player we can go ahead and ban us all, which your the admin to the server and have that right.

**amsterdam** · 12-22-05, 12:51 PM

If I didnt feel this would happen again from my clan or cowboy, I would just have said fuck it and and take the ban. but we really like the server and playing with the TTP players. we have a big following that plays there.

**...bigdog...** · 12-22-05, 01:13 PM

talking shit has NOTHING to do with talking shit to your OWN TEAMMATES. this wasn't "damn dude, I shot you", or "man, we pwned you guys".

that is talking trash.

saying "dude, you guys need to shut up", like for some reason we're all supposed to play in silence.......has NOTHING to do with trash talking, and everything to do with insulting the server, and it's players.

me being an admin or not has nothing to do with it. If he had done the same to our regular players, he would have gotten the same punishment.

maybe on your server, the only people that get respect are the admins. Maybe on your server, the only side that matters is your clan and your admins.

but that aint how it works here. Sticking to the point that you shouldn't insult admins....instead of focusing on the issue that you SHOULDN"T BE INSULTING.....is the reason this ban will remain.

obviously, we have different visions of how to play with other people. Your boys are allowed to go on pub servers, find pub players that are not admins, and tell them all to shut the fuck up.

as long as they aren't insulting admins....it's fine.

that pretty much sums it up.

**...bigdog...** · 12-22-05, 01:16 PM

if your a admin you get more respect than the day to day pubber

hence why admin ID's are kept secret. Like I told you when we were speaking....there were 7 admins on at that time.

Do you expect us to provide you with a list of players who are admins, just so you don't get in trouble again?

My suggestion is.......don't let tool ass children run their mouths. And if they are going to do it on servers you "like to play on" then don't wear your tags.

**geeseven** · 12-22-05, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by ...bigdog...

most of their comments were made in voice comms, as witnessed by other admins on the server. Many of them will witness to this in the morning, when they wake their lazy asses up.

I was on at the time and he was being a dick. I won't go on into detail since the thread has moved one.

I also would like to add that admins will take the same course of action if a player is talking shit to anyone on this server not just to admins.

we will let you know how the vote turns out.

**amsterdam** · 12-22-05, 01:32 PM

point proven. I will inform the others.

Again thanks for the time to look into this matter and i will not take up anymore of your time.

**...bigdog...** · 12-22-05, 01:37 PM

I hope we are at an understanding. Most admins (should be) reading this forum, prior to them making their voting decisions.

your tone and willingness to continue the dialogue go in your favor. Hope it works out.