Ban Appeal GCA

**[GCA]Bisshop** · 03-01-10, 10:27 AM

Greetings,

As you asked Liquid I'm here as a GCA leader to request a clan unban for Golden Camel Alliance.

Feel free to keep Nicko and Kravixon banned for stirring up shit they shouldn't have.
But don't punish people who were not involved. Like Liquid http://www.texasteamplayers.com/inde...954#msg1184954
We'll try to avoid nonsense like what happened even more in the future.

***COMMANDER*** · 03-02-10, 02:52 AM

And what is your relationship with this group and has there been an announcement regarding this situation on your website, with your members?

**[GCA]Bisshop** · 03-04-10, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by [GCA

Bisshop ]
Greetings,

As you asked Liquid I'm here as a GCA leader to request a clan unban for Golden Camel Alliance.

Feel free to keep Nicko and Kravixon banned for stirring up shit they shouldn't have.
But don't punish people who were not involved. Like Liquid http://www.texasteamplayers.com/inde...954#msg1184954
We'll try to avoid nonsense like what happened even more in the future.

**[GCA]Salah ad Din** · 03-04-10, 03:11 PM

Greetings,

I'm here as a senior GCA member (leader if you want to call me that) to confirm Bisshop's request for a clan unban for Golden Camel Alliance.

Also, see http://www.goldencamels.com/forums/s...ad.php?p=15470

**11Bravo** · 03-04-10, 07:01 PM

http://www.goldencamels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79

This would be a better starting point. It does raise a few questions though.

Who we are and what we are about

We are a group of gamers who like playing games together on a high level.
We currently have a competitive team for Project Reality with at least a 32vs32 match each month, usually 2 matches.
And we are creating a ARMA II team.

The general PR team idea is to have a coalition of squads.
Each SquadLeader must gather and keep his squad active, all we do is provide the means with which you can do that. A forum, teamspeak and PR servers.
And as a community we provide a unified base to challenge clans.
Of course there is a hierarchy above the Squadleaders to organize everything and lead everything in the right direction but it is limited.
But every member and rank can join in on the planning of battleplans, gathering intel on maps and armories, devising training ideas or creating propaganda.
We have battles as much as we can.

You are free to join this community if you are in a clan.
You can join the community just for fun and not for playing PR with us on a competitive level, lurking the public section and play other games with us
or to come and bring us a challenge from your clan.
Project Reality is not all we are about, many of us play different games with each other as well.
We have some EVE guys, Company of heroes, Arma II and lots of other games we play on occasion.

The only requirement for joining us here is the ability to have a certain level of maturity and humor.
We do not enjoy moderating and if we never have to punish stupid kids that are here to spam nonsense we would be very happy.
Last edited by [GCA]Bisshop; 1 Week Ago at 04:16 PM.

I stressed the sections with green and red which are of concern. There is a point where you say you are a community of gamers, then you follow it up with the fact that anyone is free to join the community "if you are in a clan."

Which means before this will go any further, you will need to clarify these statements and then see where the High Admins decide to go with it gentlemen.

**[GCA]Bisshop** · 03-05-10, 06:11 AM

Do I really have to spell that out?
EVERYONE IS WELCOME, clanless or not.
If you read more then the colored lines it seems quite clear to me.
But Ive edited so its overly clear now. Could have sworn it had always been that way.

***COMMANDER*** · 03-07-10, 11:37 AM

Neither one of your leaders even bothered to peek at the sticky and attempt to format an unban request....

Have them read the sticky and try again....

**Liquid_Cow** · 03-07-10, 08:09 PM

You know guys, forget about it. I'm sorry I even wanted to play on your server. I'm sorry for thinking you might recognize that what one of your admins did was rash. Foolish me, it looked like a good place to play and worth a try at getting my first ever ban overturned. I'm sorry two people who happen to wear the same tags as me tweaked your noses by being just a little bit sarcastic and then running their mouths. Despite what my good friends did (and I mean that, they are both good friends and very good players), to blanket ban a sizable community of long time team oriented players just shows a level of insecurity and immaturity on your part. We made a sincere effort to try to reconcile, but you appear to be more interested in having us fill out forms and picking apart the meaning of "community" rather than accept an olive branch which frankly you didn't deserve, but I asked for it from Bishop (thank you for trying B) so that we could enjoy your server.

Despite your claims that TTP is not a clan you have a much more of a clan like command structure than we do. We at GCA on the other hand don't even have an official "head" of the alliance. Salah was one of the founding members of CGA but if you look at his tags in our forums you'll see he carries no rank other than the respect and deference of the rest of the alliance for taking the time to form the alliance. Bishop is currently our liaison officer who speaks for us when making plans to scrim/match (which if you recall we came to you and invited you to play us, not something a bunch of asshats would normally do now is it?) and is the current highest rank we post. At one time I was the commander of our armored brigade, then semi retired to senior mechanized advisor, but now I am retired after my second child was born and did not have the time to play matches any more. Most of us are veterans of multiple PR tournaments (which is how we came to be friends in the first place).

We're not going to be childish and threaten a counter ban (it was briefly discussed), in fact members of TTP will always be welcome to play with or against us. I hope in time you are able to identify and remove that childish admin who started all of this, your server would benefit from his or her removal regardless if you let us back in. If you change your mind you know where to find us, until then I wish you fun in game and peace always.

L.C.

***COMMANDER*** · 03-08-10, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by Liquid_Cow

You know guys, forget about it. I'm sorry I even wanted to play on your server. I'm sorry for thinking you might recognize that what one of your admins did was rash. Foolish me, it looked like a good place to play and worth a try at getting my first ever ban overturned. I'm sorry two people who happen to wear the same tags as me tweaked your noses by being just a little bit sarcastic and then running their mouths. Despite what my good friends did (and I mean that, they are both good friends and very good players), to blanket ban a sizable community of long time team oriented players just shows a level of insecurity and immaturity on your part. We made a sincere effort to try to reconcile, but you appear to be more interested in having us fill out forms and picking apart the meaning of "community" rather than accept an olive branch which frankly you didn't deserve, but I asked for it from Bishop (thank you for trying B) so that we could enjoy your server.

Despite your claims that TTP is not a clan you have a much more of a clan like command structure than we do. We at GCA on the other hand don't even have an official "head" of the alliance. Salah was one of the founding members of CGA but if you look at his tags in our forums you'll see he carries no rank other than the respect and deference of the rest of the alliance for taking the time to form the alliance. Bishop is currently our liaison officer who speaks for us when making plans to scrim/match (which if you recall we came to you and invited you to play us, not something a bunch of asshats would normally do now is it?) and is the current highest rank we post. At one time I was the commander of our armored brigade, then semi retired to senior mechanized advisor, but now I am retired after my second child was born and did not have the time to play matches any more. Most of us are veterans of multiple PR tournaments (which is how we came to be friends in the first place).

We're not going to be childish and threaten a counter ban (it was briefly discussed), in fact members of TTP will always be welcome to play with or against us. I hope in time you are able to identify and remove that childish admin who started all of this, your server would benefit from his or her removal regardless if you let us back in. If you change your mind you know where to find us, until then I wish you fun in game and peace always.

L.C.

Instead of respecting our process, that is designed to pull the attitudes out of the players and reveal the situation(s),,,, you throw up your hands and reveal your true attitude, criticize our Admin(s) that did his job correctly and whaaa whaaa whaaa...

Talk about childish, instead of fixing the problem and getting your group in line, discussing their behavior/reputation, yall discuss a counter ban..... Just like a kid that got thrown out of the ball park for misbehaving, instead of getting yourself in check, you think that if you can't play in our ballpark, then yall won't allow us to play in your field..... Pathetic.

The time that you spent typing up the old " whoa's me", we didn't deserve a clan ban,
could have been spent by doing things right and fixing the problems.

We extended your group and olive branch, you just declined to put some effort in it and plant it.

You sure put the time in to type out this big ol forget it post and sadly on your part, it would not have even taken half that time to do things right with sincerity, but once again, our system we have in place, proves itself over and over again.

If yall were serious, it would have shown in your unban request..... To be able to play here is a privilege that we grant everyone, but will be revoked at any time that somebody or some group, displays poor sportsmanship or malice.